Third Quarter Collapse: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:



Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
New Blog: Backing the Pack for NC State Fans!


spread the word

Tonight's Game: Toronto Raptors at Orlando Magic - J.J. REDICK TO START

Toronto @ Orlando


RED-ALERT ULTRA MEGA UPDATE: J.J. Redick will make his first career start tonight for the Orlando Magic, according to the Orlando Sentinel's Brian Schmitz. Mickael Pietrus will miss the game with bruised ribs. Adonal Foyle will replace Pietrus on the active roster.

2008/2009 NBA Regular Season
Toronto Raptors main logo
@
Orlando Magic main logo
5-47-3
November 18th, 2008
Amway Arena
7:00 PM
Sun Sports
Probable starters:
Will Solomon PG Jameer Nelson
Anthony Parker SG J.J. Redick
Andrea Bargnani SF Hedo Turkoglu
Chris Bosh PF Rashard Lewis
Jermaine O'Neal C Dwight Howard

First thing's first: there's a chance that Jose Calderon, the Toronto Raptors' star point guard who is ailing with a sore right hamstring, could still play tonight. He did some drills yesterday and will undergo treatment today. The Magic would much rather he sit tonight's game out. His backup, Will Solomon, played capably against the Miami Heat on Sunday night, but he's still shaky at best. The more the Magic see of him, and the less of Calderon, the better.

Second: the Raptors are a changed team from when the Magic defeated them in the playoffs. They removed all traces of purple from their logo, unveiled a sleek black alternate uniform, and put a nifty new third logo at the center of their home floor. But the changes they made were more than cosmetic: consider the trade in which they obtained center Jermaine O'Neal, a six-time All-Star. While he's not contributing much offensively--just 12.9 points per game on 40.4% shooting--he's anchoring the defense and, more importantly, rebounding. Yet for all the beefiness he's added to the Raptors' front line, they're still 29th in offensive rebound rate and 20th in defensive rebound rate this season. Furthermore, their opponents are getting 28% of their shot attempts close to the basket--the same percentage as last year--and they're making 51.1% of them. Those numbers will improve in time, and I believe the acquisition of O'Neal will turn out to be a net positive for Toronto in the final analysis.

The front lines of both teams will be under great scrutiny tonight. Orlando's trio of Hedo Turkoglu, Rashard Lewis, and Dwight Howard presents mis-matches galore, but the Raptors may have found a way to negate those mis-matches: by going tall themselves. Sunday against the Heat, they started 7'00" Andrea Bargnani, drafted first overall in 2006 as a center in the Dirk Nowitzki mold, at small forward alongside Chris Bosh (6'10") at power forward and O'Neal (6'11") at center. John Hollinger of ESPN wrote that it's tallball, not smallball, that's fashionable now. The strategy, surprisingly to me, worked, and Raptors beat reporter Doug Smith says all signs point toward the Raptors continuing to use it this season. How the Magic handle the Raptors' height will be interesting. Bargnani stands no chance to guard Turkoglu on the perimeter, but likewise Turkoglu is ill-suited to guard Bargnani when he posts up, as he did successfully against Miami. Perhaps more problematic for Orlando is the chore of having to defend Bosh, who has eaten Howard's lunch several times in their head-to-head matchups. He also outplayed Howard in the Olympics. I hope Dwight is sufficiently motivated to exact some revenge.

Indeed, we'll learn a lot about the Magic tonight. This game is their biggest of the season to date. A victory, especially a blowout, would go a long way toward proving their streak of seven wins in eight tries is not a fluke.

Tip's at 7 on Sun Sports, so buy this shirt while there's still time. Go Magic.

Poll
Who will win tonight's game?
The Toronto Raptors
5 votes
The Orlando Magic
11 votes

16 votes | Poll has closed

0 recs | Comment 62 comments | Share on Facebook Digg!

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

I’m disappointed not to see Pietrus play tonight. Good opportunity for Redick though, hopefully he makes something of it.

by NBR on Nov 18, 2008 7:19 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jermaine O’Neal’s defense was impressive in the first quarter. Could be a tough night if he keeps that up.

I think the perimeter guys need to penetrate more. Especially Hedo. that’s where all the joy came from in the playoffs last season. Bargnani at SF was let off the hook in the first quarter on too many possessions, he can’t guard Hedo.

by NBR on Nov 18, 2008 7:44 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

21 points and 9 rebounds from Jermaine and Bosh in the first 14 minutes.

by NBR on Nov 18, 2008 7:46 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good play from the Magic over the past 2 minutes or so. Starting to get some footing in this game. Encouraging.

They’ve done well to keep the game close while they’ve struggled, and while Jermaine/Bosh and the Raptors have been so successful

by NBR on Nov 18, 2008 8:00 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn it Nelson, got to take advantae of that TO

by magic fanatic on Nov 18, 2008 8:02 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great run by the Magic to close the half. You could see that one coming. They’re in good position to win this game now.

Toronto will be a bit deflated, and got perhaps the best half of basketball they’ve gotten from O’Neal. It might be hard for them to repeat some of that quality from the first half.

by NBR on Nov 18, 2008 8:10 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They came turning the ball over like they did, the Raptors have no shot. Lately we have been a second half team. We’ll see if that trend continues.

by magic fanatic on Nov 18, 2008 8:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Solomon was jittery in the first half with 5 turnovers. Hard to play composed with good floor leadership from the point.

I think Dwight Howard may have gotten into his head with that early block.

by NBR on Nov 18, 2008 8:15 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rashard and Jameer are killing it at the half

Rashard is 4-6 and 2-2 from beyond the arc. He’s got 10 points and three steals.

Jameer is 5-9 and leading the team in points with 11. Both of them are playing great.

by magic fanatic on Nov 18, 2008 8:20 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chris Bosh has 4 fouls

THEY ARE GIVING US THIS GAME

lets take it.

by magic fanatic on Nov 18, 2008 8:26 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thats what I like to see JJ. Your killen it

by magic fanatic on Nov 18, 2008 8:32 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

J.J. is doing really well

10 points… 3 boards and a steal… not bad for a guy pressed into an emergency start!

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 18, 2008 8:33 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s a big foul there. Fourth foul on Jermaine, and three FTs for Lewis.

by NBR on Nov 18, 2008 8:39 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And that's what is kind of great this year

Say what you want about the bench, but at least we don’t live and die by three players this season.

by magic fanatic on Nov 18, 2008 8:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Magic are 5-11 from the three :))

Raptors are 0-9. I like that the Magic have taken fewer three attempts—it shows they realized the threes aren’t falling and they need to make better decisions by driving to the basket.

by TheGiantSquid on Nov 18, 2008 8:43 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

listening to the Toronto tv crew

Comparing Orlando’s make up to the championship Spurs teams. I like.

by magic fanatic on Nov 18, 2008 8:45 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Taking quick shots

We have the lead, take your time!

by magic fanatic on Nov 18, 2008 9:05 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good strip Nelson

He has really stepped his game up on both ends

by magic fanatic on Nov 18, 2008 9:08 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bosh is 13-18 from the field tonight for 33 points. He’s 8-9 in the second half.

Why are they going away from him? Odd decisions from his teammates.

by NBR on Nov 18, 2008 9:09 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bargnani

For a number one draft pick like he was three years ago, Andrea Bargnani has been a huge disappointment for them. His stats tonight… 1 for 7… 3 points.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 18, 2008 9:13 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t like him at small forward. Pity Bosh and him both have the same natural position.

by NBR on Nov 18, 2008 9:19 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really Jameer?

What did he think he was gonna do, block Bosh on the break?

by magic fanatic on Nov 18, 2008 9:16 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Five points in a row by the Raptors

…Magic need to finish them off here in the last two and a half minutes.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 18, 2008 9:17 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yay! :3

I thought it was a well-played game. Toronto kept struggling up, but instead of folding, the Magic recovered and shot the ball. I liked what I saw tonight.

by TheGiantSquid on Nov 18, 2008 9:25 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice win for the Magic

They had their best game shooting threes… 11 for 23! They were also able to force 21 Toronto turnovers and were able to overcome a huge game from Bosh.

Tough back-to-back coming up… at indiana Friday and at home against Houston Saturday.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 18, 2008 9:28 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excellent win

by NBR on Nov 18, 2008 9:29 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Three Magic players scored 22 points

… Nelson, Lewis, and Turkoglu. Turk had 16 fourth quarter points if I’m not mistaken.

by Mike from Illinois on Nov 18, 2008 9:30 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate to say I told you so, but...

After we lost to the Blazers everyone here was complaining and saying all sorts of bad stuff about the bench, Rashard, Reddick, etc. I told you all to calm down because we still won four out of five games, loses are bound to happen. I told ya’ll they would win four out of five again and what happened? Feels good to be right.

Anyway, good win against a team with a terrible point guard. I’m enjoying the win but lets face it, they gave us the game.

Turk was on fire in the fourth, but what is new. Rashard played well and so did Jameer. JJ also stepped up when he got the call, something most Magic fans love to see. I’m happy, I hope they can beat Indiana on the road. Not expecting a win against Houston the next night though, that is asking for a bit much I think.

Your Orlando Magic have won 8 of their last 9!!!!!

by magic fanatic on Nov 18, 2008 9:32 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, lowered expectations means not being as let down later down the road.

Coping mechanism and all that. Because basketball is srs bsns ;)

If the Magic keep up this level of play, yes they will do very well, but it’ll be hard. I hope (and think) they can do it.

by TheGiantSquid on Nov 18, 2008 9:38 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn

… Bosh was in beast mode tonight.

Nice win for the Magic, albeit its not as impressive since Calderon was hurt. Still, a win’s a win.

Senior Writer for DePaul's Scout.com website
Class of 2009 - DePaul University

by erivera7 on Nov 18, 2008 10:29 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Celebrating 20 years of Orlando Magic basketball


Community Guidelines


Vince Carter Presser Transcript

Start posting about the Magic »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Small
Brandon Bass: what's the attraction?

Recent FanPosts

Nba_small
Vince Carter or Hedo Turkoglu? No question indeed.
47715577_small
Hedo Turkoglu's Market Shake-Up
Img_0303__2__small
Anybody else thinking there's more homeless talent than money right now?
Nba_small
The Rasheed Wallace effect: Part Orlando
Maxav_small
Ariza to Rockets
Small
Hey Otis...Sign Linas Kleiza
Hedotugthejersey_small
Ron Artest to LAKERS?!?!?!
Hedotugthejersey_small
So Let's Assume . . .
200px-astoncolossus_small
Rudy Fernandez in a Magic Uniform?

Post_icon New FanPost All FanPosts Carrot-mini

Tiny Blogroll

Rather than include our complete blogroll in this space, we've decided to link to it instead. That way, you won't have to do as much scrolling. Enjoy.


Managing Editor

3qcrockjersey_small Ben Q Rock

Contributing Editor

Orlando-lee-306_small erivera7

Official Partner of Yahoo! Sports