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The Magic Should Trade J.J. Redick This Summer and Get It Over With

J.J. Redick addresses the media moments after the Orlando Magic select him with the 11th overall pick in the 2006 NBA draft.

J.J. Redick, shown here moments after the Orlando Magic selected him 11th overall in the 2006 NBA Draft, asked the team to trade him if it doesn't expect to play him. It would behoove the Magic to grant his request.

Photo by Jason DeCrow, the Associated Press

I love J.J. Redick.

When I attend Magic games at the Amway Arena, I participate in the raucous "WE-WANT-J.J.!" chants that start when garbage time does. I'm one of those obnoxious fans who goes nuts when he gets up off the bench and walks to the scorer's table. I stand up whenever he shoots so, when the shot goes in, I'm already prepared to cheer. I want J.J. to succeed in the NBA.

But, as much as I'd like for him to make a name for himself here, I realize it isn't going to happen. That's why the Orlando Magic need to trade J.J. Redick this summer.

The logic behind unloading J.J. is obvious: he doesn't play. And it's not a matter of coaching, either. J.J. averaged more minutes per game under Brian Hill -- he of the three-point-averse, defensive-minded philosophy -- than he did under Stan Van Gundy -- he of the three-point-happy, offensive-minded philosophy. If Redick, a three-point specialist, couldn't crack Van Gundy's rotation this year playing behind the likes of Maurice Evans and Keith Bogans, there's no reason to expect he will next year. Magic GM Otis Smith is on the record as saying J.J. could move from third on the depth chart to first due to Evans' free agency and Bogans' potential free agency (he has a player option). However, if either those players leave, the Magic would have only Redick available to play the two-guard position, and they'd certainly focus their free agency efforts on signing a veteran to play in front of Redick. In other words, J.J. won't be any closer to NBA relevance next season than he was this season... if he stays in Orlando, that is.

Tim Kawakami of the San Jose Mercury News notes that basketball fans and analysts tend to overvalue spot-up shooters like Redick (and Rashard Lewis, too), which is probably true. David Friedman of 20 Second Timeout, who also offered this evaluation of J.J. in July, remains similarly unconvinced that Redick will ever make it in the NBA, to heck with what professional trainer David Thorpe thinks. However, NBA teams always -- always -- want shooters to fill out their roster. How else to explain the popularity of Kyle Korver, Wally Szczerbiak, Peja Stojakovic, and James Jones, to name a few? To that end, we submit the Magic should fulfill J.J.'s trade request sooner rather than later. So, where should the Magic look? 3QC has four suggestions, in alphabetical order:

  • Golden State seems like an obvious destination because it places very little absolutely no emphasis on defense and only asks its players to shoot, shoot, and shoot some more. The Magic could try packaging Redick with Carlos Arroyo in a sign-and-trade deal to obtain Mickael Pietrus, nicknamed Air France for his nationality and athleticism, who can play the 2-through-4 positions.
  • Memphis appears to be in rebuilding mode and, in Mike Miller and Juan Carlos Navarro, has a duo of 28-year-old two guards who will be well past their primes by the time it's ready to seriously contend for a playoff spot. Redick (24) is on the same timeline as small forward Rudy Gay (22); power forward Hakim Warrick (25); and point guards Mike Conley (20) and Kyle Lowry (22). Either Miller or Navarro would fit in well with the Magic.
  • New York may also have interest in Redick. Its new coach, Mike D'Antoni, popularized the "run-and-gun" style during his tenure in Phoenix. He likes players who can score from anywhere. Redick, primarily a spot-up shooter, showed glimpses of having a drive-and-kick/distributor role on the Magic's summer team last year. D'Antoni is reportedly not keen on retaining David Lee, rebounder extraordinaire, because he's an offensive liability.
  • Philadelphia is the worst three-point shooting team in the league. The 76ers don't regret getting rid of Korver -- dumping his salary freed up cap space to re-sign Andre Iguodala this summer -- but they do need to find someone who can shoot at a similar clip. Perhaps the 76ers would part with their first-round pick (16th overall) for Redick, the Magic's first-rounder this year (22nd overall) and future second-round picks.

Maybe all this speculations will turn out to be an exercise in futility. Maybe Stan Van Gundy read -- and subsequently agreed with -- Kelly Dwyer's thoughts on Redick ("J.J. Redick, you have to believe me, needs more minutes. The team needs more low-turnover/high-yield players getting big minutes"). Maybe Keith Bogans does his best (worst?) DeShawn Stevenson impression and opts out looking for more money. Maybe the Magic decide it's not worth tripling Maurice Evans' salary to keep him. But for right now, it's a safe bet that J.J.'s NBA future rests with another team in another city, and it's certain that Otis Smith needs to consider trading him while he still has value.

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I agree

I think JJ can be a good role player in the NBA, but I also think we should trade him before or during the draft. He’s a solid shooter and has a high basketball IQ. Unfortunately he’s a defensive liability and the Magic aren’t desperate for a long range shooter when they have 6-7 solid 3-point shooters. I wish him the best success in this league, just not with the Magic.

Out of all the options you listed I’d say I like the Golden State idea the least. If Ariza couldn’t crack SVG’s lineup at all then I can’t see him liking Pietrus too much either. He would also be yet another poor free throw shooter on the Magic (he has career FT% of 66).

I would love to see Mike Miller come back to Orlando, but I think David Lee would be the best trade idea. He is exactly the type of player the Magic need. He doesn’t have range, but I don’t think he’ll need it in Orlando. He’s an 80% free throw shooter, he doesn’t turn the ball over, and he can take some of the rebounding duties away from Dwight. Not that Dwight needs any help, but the Magic won’t win any championships if they depend on one guy getting 15 rebounds a night. David Lee would be the perfect PF for the Magic and I would love for Otis to pull him in.

Now on to the next column, move Hedo to the two or trade him?

by magic fanatic on May 20, 2008 1:19 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: I agree

Don’t worry about Pietrus’ poor foul shooting. He hardly ever shoots any, so he wouldn’t kill too many of our possessions. Plus, Pietrus has something that Ariza never had: three-point range. He shot 36.3% from beyond the arc last year, and 37.3% after the All-Star break. So he helps in that respect.

Lee’s the kind of guy I think a basketball coach would have to be crazy to want to trade, but then again I’m not Mike D’Antoni. He’d work out well here, even without a jump shot. Plus, think of the adoration he’d get from the fans. Orlando is part of Gator Country.

Still don’t know how I feel about Hedo…

by Ben Q Rock on May 20, 2008 3:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not going to get time on the Sixers

If the idea is to get Redick to a team where he’ll get playing time, I wouldn’t put the Sixers on the list. The Sixers’ identity this season was all about aggressive defense. If Redick can’t play defense, then he isn’t going to get on the floor with the Sixers.

However, I certainly won’t disagree with the point that the Sixers need some better outside shooting. And I’d certainly do the trade you proposed. Not so much to get Redick, but because I think we (the Sixers) woul’d have a better chance at scoring a home run in the draft with the multiple picks than we would with just the 16th pick. To me, the difference between the 16th pick and the 22nd pick just isn’t that big. At either pick (and in the second round), you’re basically just taking a long shot.

by Sam Cohen on May 20, 2008 1:28 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Not going to get time on the Sixers

Maybe Philadelphia isn’t interested, then. But you’re right about 16 and 22 picks. There isn’t a huge difference there.

by Ben Q Rock on May 20, 2008 3:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Redick's Value

-Great trade with G. St. IMO. Pietrus actually would fit in because he has a decent corner three in his repertoire and has potential to be a lockdown defender.

-Getting Mike Miller from Memphis would be a steal. I doubt Redick and our pick would be enough though. As far as Navorro, no thanks.

-The David Lee trade is easily my favorite scenario of the bunch.

-Is JJ and the 22cd really only worth the 16th? I think G. St. again would be an option with the 14th. Then we draft Batum or Budinger, and I am a happy man.

'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12

by Eyriq the Red on May 20, 2008 2:58 PM EDT   0 recs

Memphis

We might not have the goods to pry Miller from Memphis. Redick is our only young player who’s drawn any interest (as far as we know, anyway) and it makes no sense for the Grizzlies to want Hedo in return because he’s roughly Miller’s age.

Tricky.

by Ben Q Rock on May 20, 2008 3:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Chris Wallace

... are you kidding? Considering Wallace gave Gasol away, I can guarantee you if we dangled Redick and some expiring contracts to the Grizz, we would have Miller faster here than a Derrick Rose one-man fast-break. They want to dump that contract … come on now.

Freelance Writer for the Chicago Tribune
Class of 2009 - DePaul University

by erivera7 on May 20, 2008 4:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not so sure

Apparently the Grizzlies rejected a ton of offers for Miller at the deadline. They probably want to save face after the Gasol giveaway trade and don’t want to come across as pushovers.

by Ben Q Rock on May 20, 2008 5:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think the Grizz would be more apt to trade Miller during the off-season now that time has passed since the Gasol giveaway. Whether or not that actually happens remains to be seen.

Freelance Writer for the Chicago Tribune
Class of 2009 - DePaul University

by erivera7 on May 20, 2008 5:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hedo

... also, the notion of trading Hedo is the most asinine idea I’ve ever heard in my life. Yes, his value has never been higher but considering his production for his contract, we’d be idiotic to trade a guy like that. His production/contract is ideal for the majority of teams in the NBA and for us to trade that type of asset away is a completely absurd idea unless I’m getting Derrick Rose back.

Freelance Writer for the Chicago Tribune
Class of 2009 - DePaul University

by erivera7 on May 20, 2008 4:35 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Hedo

It’s not as nuts as you might think. As great has Hedo is, he’s also a small forward, which is the same position the Magic pay Rashard Lewis $118 million to play. The Magic can’t start Lewis at power forward forever. There are three solutions: move Hedo to the two, to the bench, or to another team altogether.

by Ben Q Rock on May 20, 2008 5:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hedo

... move him to the 2 then. I’m not trading him.

Freelance Writer for the Chicago Tribune
Class of 2009 - DePaul University

by erivera7 on May 20, 2008 5:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I like Hedo just as much as the next fan, but I have a strong feeling this is as good as it gets. He’s getting up there in age and history shows that he’s more valuable now then ever. Think of the possibilities for a minute. There are 29 other NBA teams, one of them will get over anxious and offer too much. Besides, I don’t know if Hedo has the mentality to play the 2 spot. It’ll be a sad day, but I think the time has come.

by magic fanatic on May 21, 2008 2:12 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Time has come? He’s 29 for crying out loud.

Freelance Writer for the Chicago Tribune
Class of 2009 - DePaul University

by erivera7 on May 22, 2008 12:11 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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