Talkin' Trades: J.J. Redick to the Pacers
Brent Beck, a die-hard Pacers fan, really wants Indiana to make a move for J.J. Redick, as he explains in a guest post at Indy Cornrows. Considering the Pacers a) are one of my favorite teams, b) Redick is one of my favorite players, and c) the Magic have no use for him, I heartily endorse the idea of sending Redick to Indy. But, as in any trade proposal, one must consider what the Pacers have to offer the Magic. And there's an obvious answer:
Jeff Foster.

File photo by Tim Strattman, the Associated Press
The Magic need help at power forward and center. Foster, a nine-year veteran with a career PER of 14.4, plays both positions. And unlike Brian Cook, the Magic's presumed backup four next season, Foster bangs around the boards with the best of them. And I really mean "the best": he lead the NBA in Offensive Rebounding Rate (the percentage of available offensive rebounds a player snags while on the floor) in each of the last two seasons. His career ORR, 15.31, is fifth-best in the history of the league and tops among active players, even more highly paid ones like Erick Dampier, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, and Ben Wallace. And, wouldn't you know it, the Magic's biggest weakness in their first season under Stan Van Gundy was their inability to clean up their own misses: although they were nigh-elite on the defensive boards, they were horrendous on the offensive ones, finishing 27th in the league in Offensive Rebounding Rate.
Foster's presence has a tremendous impact on the Pacers' rebounding abilities as a team. Data from 82games.com show that when he's on the floor, they grab 50.9% of available rebounds, a 4.7% improvement from their average when he's off the floor. Don't let the advertising quacks fool you. "Foster" is not "Australian for 'beer,'" but rather "San Antonian for 'Rebound.'"
As always, we must consider finances when discussing potential trades. Foster's $5.70 million salary next season more than double's Redick's ($2.14 million), but the Magic can throw in a player to make the trade work. Whom might they package? Look no further than Brian Cook. At 27, he's nearly four full years younger than Foster, and while he's certainly hit his ceiling, he fits in with Indiana's younger players (average age: 26.7) better than Foster did. Additionally, Cook's specialty, three-point shooting, will come in handy in Indiana. Only the Warriors and the Magic attempted more triples last season than the Pacers did, yet they finished eighth in three-point percentage. As a bonus for Indiana, his style contrasts nicely with Ike Diogu, the so-called "steal" in the trade that sent Stephen Jackson and Al Harrington to the Warriors, who plays more of a low-post game.
And if all those reasons didn't do it for you, maybe this one will. Foster's contract expires at the end of next season, giving the Magic cap room to re-sgn Hedo Turkoglu, who will almost certainly use his opt-out clause to negotiate a contract which would reward him for his exemplary play of late. Or, if Turk decides he would rather not stay with the Magic, or if the Magic decide Turk's asking price is too high, they can try to re-sign Foster.
To me, this trade is a low-risk, high-reward proposition for the Magic. They exchange one young player who doesn't play and a veteran who doesn't fit their needs for a veteran who does fit their needs. Heck, I wouldn't mind throwing a future first-round pick into the deal if it would appease the Pacers.
When the Magic traded Trevor Ariza to the Lakers for Maurice Evans and Cook, ESPN's John Hollinger liked the deal because it was the sort of minor move that above-average teams make to take themselves to the next level. Obtaining Foster would be a similar, seemingly minor move for the Magic, but one that would pay even greater dividends. Every serious contender in the NBA gets contributions from role-players: Detroit has Antonio McDyess; San Antonio has Kurt Thomas; Boston has... well, it has three future Hall-of-Famers, so it doesn't count; and the Lakers have Derek Fisher. If the Magic want to make the most of the primes of their stars, they'd do well to acquire Foster (or another similar role-player) who may be slightly past his.
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Good Argument
I could see Foster coming in and contributing from the bench. Does he have any offense? ESPN rips his offense but I seem to remember him having a spot up jump shot. I think this trade has a chance at making us better, though I think it is a waste of Redick, especially if he turns out to be good. I would also miss Cook.
'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12
by Eyriq the Red on May 24, 2008 9:17 AM EDT 0 recs
Offense
He’s going to get most of his buckets on put-backs and dunks, but he occasionally spots up, yes. 82games says jumpers take up 36% of his total field goal attempts, and he connects on 36% of those. That means 64% of his shots come within 6 feet from the basket. Here’s his Hot Spot chart from NBA.com:
by Ben Q Rock on
May 24, 2008 9:35 PM EDT
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Foster would definitely fit in here, I would be happy if the team made a move like this.
by magic fanatic on May 24, 2008 12:41 PM EDT 0 recs
Agree
Jeff Foster? Where can Bird sign!
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by Brent Beck on May 24, 2008 4:26 PM EDT 0 recs
man, i saw jeff foster’s picture there and i flipped.
but after a well reasoned argument, i guess this isn’t such a bad deal. doesn’t he always get into arguments and pushing matches with the opposing players? i seem to remember that from him. we need a player like that.
by coque429 on May 25, 2008 2:13 PM EDT 0 recs
Foster's attitude
I don’t recall him being that much of a hothead, but I do know this much: he does not appreciate it when fans interrupt play by running onto the floor. Watch this YouTube from a Pacers/Wizards game last season. At about the 00:24 mark, Foster decides he’s had enough and trips the moron, giving Security enough time to catch up with him. Nice.
by Ben Q Rock on
May 25, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
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The more I think about it
The more I like the idea on getting Foster, it would fill a huge need. I just don’t like the pieces we give up. Am I being a Homer???
'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12
by Eyriq the Red on May 25, 2008 5:29 PM EDT 0 recs
You’d rather have J.J. and Cookie Monster than Foster?
by Ben Q Rock on
May 25, 2008 10:46 PM EDT
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Erg, it’s Redick after all. The Cookie Monster has his uses as well. Don’t you think he started really fitting in before he broke his hand? I do. Still, while it is always hard seeing players you like get traded, I would deal with it as this Foster character would really feel a need. Why do I feel like I’m chasing my tail? How about this, Battie for Foster!
'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12
by Eyriq the Red on
May 26, 2008 7:12 AM EDT
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Battie for Foster
Doesn’t make sense for the Pacers to trade a good PF/C for a mediocre one. They wouldn’t save any money, either.
by Ben Q Rock on
May 26, 2008 11:06 PM EDT
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Foster for Redick, Cook and 1st is a lot
I love Jeff Foster. I think hes one of the most underrated players in the league for what he does and his contract. But Foster’s also aging, and maybe has 2-3 good years left. Redick’s value may be higher than you think, considering the reports that the Suns were interested in him for the 15th pick. Cook is worthless. A Redick, Cook & the 22nd for Foster and Indiana’s Pick would be great though! Maybe even trade for Tinsley and get the Pacers to through in their pick as well.
by WhatAboutFran on May 29, 2008 7:11 PM EDT 0 recs
Anything but Tinsley
He’s on the “Keep Him the — Away From My Team” list, along with Eddy Curry, Stephon Marbury, Steve Francis, Darius Miles, Ruben Patterson, etc.
by Ben Q Rock on
May 30, 2008 12:47 AM EDT
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We’d be acquiring Tinsley for the pick, not so much for him. Indiana’s probably desperate to unload TInsley’s contract to go after Hinrich if/when Chicago drafts Rose. I doubt Chicago takes Tinsley and the 11th pick for Hinrich and whatever else, since TInsley’s contract is pretty bad itself and they have no need for more youngsters. In the worst case scenario, Tinsley can be bought out for 16 million or traded in February to a contender looking for backcourt help, but Indiana’s pick could be Love or Westbrook, who are both going to be great pros.
Love would give us a low post banger who can also step out and hit the NBA 3. The only player in the league who comes close to matching that description is Rasheed Wallace, and look how well its worked out for Detroit. Plus, Love is not crazy.
by WhatAboutFran on
May 30, 2008 11:03 AM EDT
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Problems
Tinsley can be bought out for 16 million
One year of Rashard Lewis’ salary just to get rid of a guy? Do the Magic have that kind of money? And buying someone out doesn’t take him off the books, at least as far as I know.
or traded in February to a contender looking for backcourt help,
What contender would want to sign Tinsley, even on the cheap?
by Ben Q Rock on
Jun 2, 2008 8:55 PM EDT
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JJ to Phoenix
Where did you hear about this? Does it include our pick or is this straight up? I could see Kerr falling in love with a guy like Redick, maybe he sees something in him! lol If this is straight up than I will kiss Otis on the mouth if he pulls this off.
'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12
by Eyriq the Red on
May 31, 2008 10:52 PM EDT
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I first read it in Povtak's column...
...but I’ve seen some people reference it to Hoops Hype as well. One of the reasons that Phoenix would consider such a lopsided deal is that their owner, Sarver, is not willing to pay any more of the lux tax that absolutely necessary. Which is why the Suns keep selling their first rounders for cash, or finding lopsided trading partners like the Sonics (Kurt Thomas AND two first round picks for a Magic trade exception-not sure how the league office approved that one). If Phoenix doesnt like anyone at 15, Sarver will probably force Kerr to move the pick for cash and a young player-ergo the Suns 15th for Redick and “cash considerations.”
by WhatAboutFran on
Jun 1, 2008 3:39 PM EDT
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