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Orlando Magic News for September 24th: Regarding Kevin Kruger's Whereabouts and a Blogger's Trade Proposal

Pretty slow news day for the Magic today, which is just as well. I'm worn out after making 13 posts in the last two days. But here we go:

  • Yesterday, the Magic added forward/center Dwayne Jones and small forward Jeremy Richardson to their training-camp roster. When I heard the news, I wondered where Kevin Kruger, who joined the Magic in camp last season and who played for their summer-league team this year and last. Well, as The Bratwurst informs us, the 6'02" combo guard is headed to camp with the Milwaukee Bucks. We wish him the best.
  • Jacemann submitted an Orlando Magic/Oklahoma City Thunder trade proposal to the new blog The Trade Journal, headed by Greg Broome of Peninsula is Mightier fame. The proposal, which Greg endorses, has the Magic sending J.J. Redick and Brian Cook to Oklahoma City for Nick Collison. I, too, love this trade from the Magic's perspective. Unfortunately, Steve Kyler of HoopsWorld reported last month that Magic sources told him that Collison is not on the team's radar.

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Thanks for the link, and glad to see the Collison idea has your approval too. By the way, I meant to comment earlier, but you did an outstanding job with the uniform coverage over the past couple of days. I loved reading it – great stuff.

by PeninsulaIsMightier on Sep 24, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you can mark down my prediction, here bright and early. Otis is going to trade Hedo by the deadline. not that wild of an idea but people aren’t talking much about it. i guarantee it.

here’s hoping that some team will be desperate for some offensive help (Chicago?) and pull the trigger. How does Joakim Noah (back to Central FL), Hinrich (and we wanted Duhon?? ha) and 1st rounder for Hedo sound? damn i forgot hinrich’s making a lot of money. who could the magic send to match salaries?

by coque429 on Sep 24, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yuck … I hate Noah, I especially hate Hinrich (real life a-hole, I’ve met him once). As I explained in a different post, whether or not we trade Hedo at the deadline all depends on how we fair to begin the season. If we’re hot to start, then I think Otis will keep Hedo just to see how far we go. If we start cold, then I can see Otis trading away Hedo and reloading for 2009. Again, its all dependent on where we stand at the trade deadline and if we’re a legitimate threat in the East.

Noah is nothing special and Hinrich is terrible … Hinrich’s PER last year was a whopping 13.13, no thanks (33rd amongst PG), and Noah’s was decent at 15.54, given the minutes he garnered (5th amongst rookies). I see him/read about him plenty given that I live in Chicago right now and he’s nothing special. Probably a fringe starter/back-up at best, nothing more. The draft pick may serve some use, but I rather have players that can help now. We have enough youth.

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by erivera7 on Sep 25, 2008 1:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Noah would fit in nicely and Hinrich would be great as a combo guard coming off the bench.

Of course thats only in theory, cause if they trade for Hinrich’s bloated contract I’d shoot myself in the foot. No way that would go down, bad trade for Orlando and Chicago.

by magic fanatic on Sep 25, 2008 9:37 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed, mostly

The deal doesn’t make sense for the Bulls. They just invested a ton of money in Luol Deng as their small forward of the future. They don’t need Hedo with Deng around. Plus, losing Noah leaves them with only Aaron Gray at center… and he’s not that great.

by Ben Q Rock on Sep 25, 2008 10:51 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Richardson

Any idea if he will get a chance to make the Magic’s rotation? I’m not definite he’s a potentially useful player but I’d like to see him get an extended opportunity to play.

by Hoopinion on Sep 25, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Depends

First: can he shoot threes?
Second: can he defend?

That’s about all Stan is going to ask a reserve wing player to do. And the Magic, right now, don’t really have a backup small forward. So there’s a chance that Richardson could make the team, but I doubt it. Otis has discussed his preference for having only 14 players on the roster several times, and unless Richardson or Jones blow him away, neither stands much of a shot.

And, to be honest, I’m more intrigued by Jones. His rebounding statistics are fantastic, and the Magic need a guy who can bang.

However, it would be interesting to see if Richardson could add another dimension to the Magic’s offense by slashing. Is he a slasher?

by Ben Q Rock on Sep 25, 2008 5:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

first, hedo is not going to be traded bc we start the season badly. we’re trading hedo bc 1. we can go to a more traditional lineup (with Battie starting) and 2. so we don’t lose hedo for nothing after the season.

second, i liiiiike that trade. in a year or two, noah and dwight as our front line ? plus, hinrich definitely had a bad year last time out but i think he can be a good player again. you forget chicago has no offense and he has to make shit happen. here though, i think he would start (jameer would become instant offense 6th man) and become a lock down defender. on offense, he would be simply a facilitator for our guns (dwight, rashard, lee). not only that, we could play jameer and hinrich together depending on the situation, like him and ben gordon. + a 15-20 pick. all this for hedo, who teams obviously know can opt out after this season.

by coque429 on Sep 25, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but again salaries don’t match. we’d also have to give up 2 out of this 3 : cook, redick, bogans. that might be much

by coque429 on Sep 25, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My take on possibly trading Turk

Turk had an outstanding season last year, no question; but chances are that this season he will not approach the stats he accumulated last season (he will turn 30 next March). He would still be a sold contributor for the Magic, I’m sure.

But, if the Magic do wind up trading Turk before the deadline, sure, they would miss him, but the Magic would be able to return Rashard Lewis to his natural small forward position, and hopefully get a legitimate power forward in return at the very least.

That would also save the Magic the embarrassment of letting Turk go as a free agent and getting absolutely nothing in return.

by Mike from Illinois on Sep 25, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The question: do the Magic want to go conventional?

I’m really intrigued to see how Tony fits into the lineup this year, whether or not the Magic trade Hedo. Much of the team’s success last year was due to the three-point shot. Obviously, putting Hedo on the bench (or on a plane to, say, Memphis) and putting Battie in his place removes that three-point ability. It seems to me then the Magic would have to play a slower, more traditional style.

by Ben Q Rock on Sep 25, 2008 5:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think you’re going to see a good amount of hedo and rashard splitting time at the 3 next to battie and dwight. as a result the slower more traditional pace you mention is exactly what i think we’re headed to. i think, and hope, otis realizes that the 3 point phoenix suns style can only get you so far. to beat detroit, this rashard and hedo stuff isn’t gonna work. you also have to remember detroit is restocking pretty nicely for the future (Stuckey, Maxiell, Amir Johnson). it’s not gonna be a free ticket when rasheed and co are gone. if we could pick up a nice power forward for hedo and bring battie off the bench, wheeeeew

by coque429 on Sep 25, 2008 9:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A typo… I meant to say that Turk would still be a solid contributor for the Magic this season.

That being said, if the Magic can get a legit power forward in a trade involving Turk, I think that would benefit the Magic for the better.

by Mike from Illinois on Sep 25, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Everyone keeps bringing up that Turk will be 30. This is not the NFL. A lot of these players peak from 27 through age 33. That would give Turk three more years to keep ballin’.

by hevchv on Sep 26, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t think it’s so much “he’s an old man” as much as it as “this is the best he’ll ever get,” you know?

by Ben Q Rock on Sep 26, 2008 6:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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