Third Quarter Collapse: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:



Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
Around SBN: Steve McNair Found Shot to Death


Orlando Magic News for September 30th: The Magic Believe They Can Win an NBA Championship

Hedo Turkoglu of the Orlando Magic poses for a portrait at RDV Sportsplex during Orlando Magic Media Day on September 29th, 2008.Courtney Lee of the Orlando Magic poses for a portrait at RDV Sportsplex during Orlando Magic Media Day on September 29th, 2008.

Hedo Turkoglu and Courtney Lee pose during Orlando Magic Media Day. Both players said yesterday they'd be willing to play out-of-position at point guard "in certain sets."

Photos by Fernando Medina, NBAE/Getty Images

Some actual Media Day updates await in today's links. I mean, more substantive than Marcin Gortat in Mickey Mouse ears, anyway. That photo has supplanted Hedo's game-winner against Boston as my desktop wallpaper, by the way.

Onto it...

UPDATE: added two new bullets (including some J.J. Redick-centric sub-bullets) to this morning's initial post.

  • John Denton of Florida Today says the Magic seriously believe they can win a championship. Take it away, Rashard Lewis:

    "We wouldn't say 'championship' every day if we didn't mean it or didn't think it was possible," Magic forward Rashard Lewis said on Monday. "You don't set goals to win the division or to get to the second round of the playoffs. The goal is to win the NBA championship. We're not going to be satisfied until we get to the championship. It feels like something special is coming here for us."

    I think we all appreciate the team's confidence. It's exactly the right attitude to have. But here is the wrong attitude. Dwight Howard told the Orlando Sentinel's Kyle Hightower the following:

    "We want to be a team like the Utah Jazz and people are like 'Ah, man, here come the Utah Jazz.' Where they already know [what they're in for]. We don't people saying we're playing the Magic we're going to Disney World. We have to change that mentality."

    I agree that the Magic need to toughen up. That's not in doubt. But the Jazz? Let's be clear about something: the Jazz are not a tough team, or at least not the sort of tough team whose style you should want to emulate. They finished dead last in the league last season in Free Throw Rate defense, which means they let teams get to the foul line with great frequency. They also finished 12th in Defensive Efficiency, a disappointing mark for a Jerry Sloan-coached team.

    My suggestion? It's crazy, but here it is: do as the four-time World Champion San Antonio Spurs do. By playing smart defense and not fouling excessively, they finished 4th in Free Throw Rate defense and, not coincidentally, 3rd in Defensive Efficiency.

  • Hightower also notes that small forward Hedo Turkoglu and rookie shooting guard Courtney Lee have played point guard in voluntary workouts this week and both "would be comfortable trying their hand at filling that spot in certain sets if needed." Hedo's playing the point is nothing new -- he's the primary ballhandler in crunch-time anyway, and has a better-than-average handle -- but the news about Courtney is a bit surprising. But even if he isn't so great creating off the dribble, he could at least defend opposing point guards. Stan Van Gundy told Hightower he believes he can, anyway.

    Y'know, if Lee can handle the ball, defend three positions, and shoot as advertised, J.J. Redick might not even crack the active roster this year. Oy.

    And, if Hedo and Courtney fare well enough at the point, it could render third-string point guard Mike Wilks superfluous and open a roster spot for swingman Jeremy Richardson or forward/center Dwayne Jones.

    • UPDATE: Funny I mentioned J.J. earlier, because Brian Schmitz has a brief piece about him in his blog. J.J.'s worked himself into great shape, Schmitz reports:

      "I'm in the best place I've ever been in my life," Redick said. "I know that sounds weird saying that at 24, but I'm mentally prepared for whatever happens."

      [....]

      He worked overtime this summer, reporting in terrific shape, adding muscle to his slender frame.

      J.J. said as much on his blog last week:

      Despite the uncertainty heading into training camp, my perspective on things is great. I’m going into training camp in great shape and ready to fight for a role on the Magic. I’m blessed and very lucky to be playing basketball for a living. I know the work I put in this summer will pay off in some way.

      Courtney Lee and Keith Bogans better watch their backs. If J.J. has indeed gotten stronger, he might be able to get into the lane more easily, which will help him expand his game. In his NBA career, J.J. has been strictly a jump-shooter, and one who has a bad habit of pump-faking and taking a few steps in before shooting. When he's open, he needs to catch the ball and shoot it; in other words, he need not be so tentative. His confidence seems to have improved, which leads me to believe we'll him pump-fake with less frequency this season.

    • J.J Fanatics, I need your help to satisfy my curiosity: has J.J. always had this tattoo under his left arm?
  • If you like seeing how preseason expectations and statements compare to regular- and post-season results, you'll want to check out this piece in the Sentinel, which outlines how the Magic intend to improve this year using quotes from players as evidence. I might make a sidebar item out of this article. We'll see.
  • Dwight Howard says winning an Olympic gold medal means more than winning an NBA championship. Mike Bianchi expresses his confusion. But Howard sums up his position nicely:

    "To win a championship," Dwight said, "you have to have gold-medal standards."

    If Dwight can apply the lessons he learned in Beijing to his game and improve -- and, by extension, get the Magic closer to a title -- then I don't think anyone will complain. Winning Olympic gold is nothing to complain about, either.

0 recs | Comment 11 comments

Story-email Email Printer Print

More from Third Quarter Collapse

Create A Caption #20

Jul 2009 by erivera7 - 1 comment

Around SB Nation

Daily Links  7/4

Jul 2009 from CelticsBlog - 3 comments

All Quiet On The Pacers Front

Jul 2009 from Indy Cornrows - 3 comments

Hedo Throws a Curveball

Jul 2009 from CelticsBlog - 36 comments

Comments

Display:

If the Hedo at the point experiment can work in short stretches, that could be an incredibly deadly late game lineup. No offense Jameer, but…OK, a little bit of offense.

www.upsideandmotor.blogspot.com

by Upside and Motor on Sep 30, 2008 6:11 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The point guard situation

I’m really hoping that Jameer Nelson can have a healthy, productive year, because if he gets hurt and has to miss some games, I don’t think opposing teams will fear Anthony Johnson starting and Mike Wilks backing up at PG.

It’s good to see that Turkoglu and Courtney Lee have played some PG in the voluntary workouts, because either could step in and play the position in case Jameer has to miss any games, especially Turk, because we all know what a good passer he is.

If the Magic decide to trade Turkoglu at mid-season, I would hope they could get a serviceable point guard in return in addition to a power forward. I think Anthony Johnson will do an adequate job as Nelson’s backup, but no one really knows if Mike Wilks can be useful or not off the bench.

I am looking forward to seeing Jameer have the best season of his career, based on how well he did in the playoffs last season.

by Mike from Illinois on Sep 30, 2008 6:37 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jameer's due for a career year

I have high hopes/expectations for him this year. Is an All-Star reserve spot too much to ask for? He’d basically have to beat some combination of Billups, Calderon, Andre Miller, and Devin Harris…

by Ben Q Rock on Sep 30, 2008 11:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm will ya

on all but trading Turk that is. I really think Nelson is going to make all the haters finally shut up.

'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12

by Eyriq the Red on Sep 30, 2008 11:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this year's rodney stuckey

I made this comment to the shot doctor a few months ago and he flat out told me that Lee would never be able to play the point. This could possibly make up for Stuckey who is being talked as possibley the starter of the future at the point in Detroit. Not to mention that Stuckey was the pick we traded to Detroit. Plus if Lee becomes the 3rd point, we may be able to see JJ as the 3rd off guard. MAYBE.

by hevchv on Oct 1, 2008 6:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Nelson’s biggest problems are in his head. He has to learn how to be more consistent and assertive … he’s already shown he’s talented enough (than he usually is) to be a more dominant player against top defensive sides, there’s no good reason why he doesn’t contribute more. I’m not asking the world, just more.

I think Nelson is a huge key to the team’s season. They need his penetration and playmaking to diversify their offense, without that they’re a level below top tier teams. He’s so important. Hopefully this his breakout year.

by NBR on Sep 30, 2008 5:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed on basically all counts. He has the talent to succeed in the NBA. He just needs more consistency, and to play smarter. That isn’t to say he doesn’t play smart now, but he needs to take it up a notch, you know?

by Ben Q Rock on Sep 30, 2008 10:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Absolutely, Jameer needs to develop a better understanding of how to use his talents to a greater effect. He can achieve more on the court with better use of his present skills.

Nelson needs to be more assertive on the floor too. He takes a back seat too often, to content to set up the floor, rather than to attack … needs a better balance.

by NBR on Oct 1, 2008 1:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Celebrating 20 years of Orlando Magic basketball


Community Guidelines


Vince Carter Presser Transcript

Start posting about the Magic »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

47715577_small
Hedo Turkoglu's Market Shake-Up
Img_0303__2__small
Anybody else thinking there's more homeless talent than money right now?
Nba_small
The Rasheed Wallace effect: Part Orlando
Small
Brandon Bass: what's the attraction?
Maxav_small
Ariza to Rockets
Small
Hey Otis...Sign Linas Kleiza
Hedotugthejersey_small
Ron Artest to LAKERS?!?!?!
Hedotugthejersey_small
So Let's Assume . . .
200px-astoncolossus_small
Rudy Fernandez in a Magic Uniform?
Nocanhaz_small
Trevor likely to leave L.A.?

Post_icon New FanPost All FanPosts Carrot-mini

Tiny Blogroll

Rather than include our complete blogroll in this space, we've decided to link to it instead. That way, you won't have to do as much scrolling. Enjoy.


Managing Editor

3qcrockjersey_small Ben Q Rock

Contributing Editor

Orlando-lee-306_small erivera7

Official Partner of Yahoo! Sports