Brandon Bass. Anyone Think He Might Be A Good Fit?

by TragicMatt on Jan 14, 2009 11:23 AM EST Comment 24 comments

You know the drill. New week, new showcased fanpost. This week 3QC member TragicMatt poses a trade scenario involving a certain Dallas Mavericks player. Do you agree/disagree with him? Provide your thoughts in the comments section. Don't forget to check out Ben's recap of the Magic/Kings game last night. - ER

Recently, there has been talk that the Dallas Mavericks may be shopping Brandon Bass around the league. He seems like a good fit for the Magic in multiple ways:

1) Hard-working PF who can rebound. Also, very athletic. Imagine a big lineup of Jameer, Turk, Shard, Bass, and Dwight. That would be unstoppable if you ask me.

2) Cap-friendly contract (less than 1MM)

I don't know what it would take to trade for him, or how to match the contracts, but maybe something like this (salaries match on ESPN trade machine):

Orlando gets:

Brandon Bass, Jerry Stackhouse (Expiring contract/on the trading bock)

Dallas gets:

JJ Redick, Brian Cook

Essentially, Dallas gets another talented wing player as well as a "big" body to replace Bass' minutes. Orlando gets the bruising, athletic 4 they are looking for.

What do you all think? Would you make this trade? Would Dallas make this trade?

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Bass and Stack are on the block

But I imagine the Mavs would want more than J.J. and Cookie Monster for them. Seems like they could get a better offer.

I’ve long admired Bass’ game, though. I think he’d be a great fit here.

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by Ben Q Rock on Jan 12, 2009 2:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

We don't need Bass .. not now at least.

The Magic have more pressing needs at PG (back-up).

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by erivera7 on Jan 12, 2009 3:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I agree with erivera

I like Gortat and Battie off the bench, wouldn’t want to mess with that. I also don’t want to get rid of JJ right now, he’s just playing too good.

Never thought I’d say that.

by magic fanatic on Jan 12, 2009 3:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

On the other hand, now might be the perfect time to shift JJ whilst he’s showing he can ball in the NBA. Which has not been a given for the past 3 years.

I’m not sure we’d give up two guys who can hit the three for a bruiser and yet another two guard. Maybe if the Mavs could give us a backup point we’d make the switch.

by eltharion_doa on Jan 12, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

J.J. Barea is having a helluva year. i doubt they're ready to dump him.

But if that rumored trade goes through, the one which would send Raymond Felton to Dallas, Barea would once again be their third PG.

Hm.

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by Ben Q Rock on Jan 12, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That's a great point actually .. about moving J.J. when his value is at its highest its ever been.

But it’s tough .. because the Magic would need to make a deal that makes sense on a lot of levels. Clearly the team would need to address a need, as well as cover the fact the team would be giving up a shooter, salary, etc.

Excellent suggestion though.

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by erivera7 on Jan 12, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Like Erivera said...

We need a backup pg, that’s the only reason for this team to trade Bogans, Reddick, or Cook.

Personally, I’m pretty high on Roko Ukic. I wonder what it would take to get him out of
Toronto.

by magic fanatic on Jan 12, 2009 10:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Eh.

Ukic has a PER of less than 11. That’s better than AJ, for sure, but the Magic can do better.

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by erivera7 on Jan 13, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This wouldn't be a stopgap trade.

I don’t think a backup PG is necessary right now. This trade will solidify the future.

As for another PG, that can be filled via Free Agency. Remember, Battie’s contract is expiring, and he would be expendable if Bass came to Orlando.

I’m not so worried about finding a PG for this year, as I am for setting this team up for the duration of Dwight/Meer/Sheed/Pietrus’ contracts (4+ years).

by TragicMatt on Jan 13, 2009 12:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

That's fine, but that still doesn't change the fact Orlando needs to address its back-up PG issue now.

Bass would be a nice piece for the future, sure, but the Magic have to concern themselves with the here and now. Because of this fact, finding an upgrade at PG over Anthony Johnson before the trading deadline should be GM Otis Smith’s #1 priority.

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by erivera7 on Jan 13, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes we could use a back up PG

BUT getting Bass would be to good to pass up imo. Yes BIG minutes are limited with Howard and Lewis as the starters but Bass is a high impact guy that could battle guys like McDyess for us. If this deal is on the table than I’d have to go for it. We can always rent a pg via the 10 day contract to find a fit. That is basically what Wilks was, talent wise anyways.

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by Eyriq the Red on Jan 13, 2009 9:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

It would definitely be a fleecing,

but maybe we could trade for Mike Conley Jr?

by TragicMatt on Jan 13, 2009 11:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

He's going to the Bucks. That's almost a done deal at this point.

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by erivera7 on Jan 13, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I've heard they might be having some second thoughts.

by TragicMatt on Jan 13, 2009 12:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

As told to the Racine Journal Times.

I’ve been told both teams have virtually agreed on the conditions of the trade and only Bucks owner Herb Kohl had to give his stamp of approval. Bucks general manager John Hammond, reached in North Carolina where he was on a scouting trip, said it was his policy not to comment on any trade speculation.

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by erivera7 on Jan 13, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

absolutely no reason to get rid of jj

been killin it as of late

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by mhetrick14 on Jan 14, 2009 2:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Back up PG more important

Bass is a good player and a year ago i would have loved to have him. But I prefer Battie over him and a backup PG is of more need to this team. If Jameer gets hurt again, AJ would be logging 30+ minutes and that is not a good thing for us.

Luther Head, Ramon Sessions, Travis Diener are guys we can get with just Bogans contract that would fit more what we are looking for.

by L Magico on Jan 14, 2009 2:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

trade brought up in david thorpe's chat...

pietrus/foyle for haslem.

i make that trade in a heartbeat.

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by mhetrick14 on Jan 14, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Works for us, but not the Heat.

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by Ben Q Rock on Jan 14, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Heat would never do that trade. They're thin when it comes to quality big man they can play.

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by erivera7 on Jan 14, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't give up Pietrus

We just signed the guy, I still want to see what he can really bring to this team.

by magic fanatic on Jan 14, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes on the Bass move. No on the Haslem move.

To me, Brandon Bass is similar to Paul Millsap a bruiser we could use for rebounding and lane occupying purposes, he’s not the traditional Van Gundy 3 pt shooting PF (ala Rashard Lewis/Turk ) but he does the dirty work that needs to be done to get another possession here and there. Plus, it’s for JJ and Cook, so that’s a yes from me. JJ needs to be moved now while his stock is OK.

Haslem move, no. I like Battie and Gortat off the bench, although I respect Haslem game alot, I wouldnt play around with team chemistry right now. Pietrus is a poor man’s Ron Artest and that’s a player you don’t wanna let go….ever.

by magic12ball on Jan 15, 2009 6:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I'm not hating on the move per se, but not at this juncture.

As I said earlier in this comment section, the Magic have more pressing needs at back-up PG.

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by erivera7 on Jan 15, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I can’t see the Mavs being interested in that trade, I think Bass has too much value to them as a player. Bass is a free agent this summer though, am I right on that? I think he is. He’d be a nice acquisition at that point.

Good defense, very athletic and mobile. He’s got a very good jump shot for a big man which is important, he can continue to space the floor and play alongside Dwight. Decent rebounder. Tough player too.

I think he’d be a good fit on the Magic.

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by NBR on Jan 18, 2009 12:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs